Pinnacle Law Firm - LOAN MODIFICATION RIPPED OFFAND MONEY OWED US BACK

Placerville, California 4 comments
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MY WIFE AND MYSELF HIRED PINNICAL LAW FIRM IN CORAL SPRINGS FLORIDA TO HELP IN THE MODIFICATION OF OUR HOME.THROUGH YOUNG AND ASSOCIATES MORTGAGE.

THEY TOLD US THEY WOULD REVEIEW OUR MORTGAGE AND LOOK INTO ANY TYPE OF WRONG ON THE PART OF THE BANK AND MORTGAGE COMPANY. AS TIME WENT ON I WOULD CALL OUR CONTACT PERSON AND WHEN THEY WOULD NOT RETURN MY CALL I WOULD FIND OUT THEY NO LONGER WHERE WITH THE COMPANY. THEY CHANGED THEIR ADDRESS WITHOUT NOTICE.

THEY WILL NOT RETURN MY CALLS AT ALL. THEY DID NOT FOLLOW THROUGH WITH ANYTHING ON THE AGREEMENT FORM WE SIGNED.

THEY WHERE PAPER PASSERS. I FEEL WE WHERE SCAMED BY PINNACLE LAW FIRM ALONG WITH YOUNG AND ASSOCIATES. OUR MORTGAGE CO. IS STILL SENDING ALL OUR PAPER WORK TO PINNACLE LAW, BUT PINNACLE LAW WILL NOT CALL US.

THEY WILL NOT SIGN THE RELEASE FOR US TO HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH OUR MORTGAGE.WE WANT OUR MONEY BACK FOR SERVICES THAT WHERE NOT PROVIDED PER THE AGREEMENT WITH PINNACLE LAW FIRM.

Review about: Mortgage Modification.

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Anonymous
#596629

I received a call to get out of credit card debt I'm afraid what shall I do

from the firm that was mentioned.

Anonymous
#534891

I worked for this company. It is definitely a fraud from A to Z.  

The real owner is named Greg Spinder or Spinner.  It is not an actual law firm and no legal work is done there.  The "business" is run by Greg And a man named Bob Greenberg.  Greg is the main owner but I'm told they keep his name out of it all as much as possible because he has ran many scam companies before and his names is already known as a scam.  Bob is a minority owner.  What I learned from the employees is that the lawyer "Lance Denha" is just a fall guy.  He is just some kid out of Law School that they pay a lot of money too to use his name and license.  Apparently they change their name every year and move locations.  Last year they were Pinnacle Law Firm and each year before they were another name and at another location.  

Inside the office lies a scene that nobody could believe.  A boiler room where the one owner (BOb) and the other owner Greg run around screaming profanities at the top of their lungs all day.  It is an office with 100's of cubicle of "callers" who are told to call people And tell them that they qualify for some amazing relief when really you are just supposed to say that to every person so that a "closer" can get on the phone to take your money.  Most of the "callers" are nice people that are down on their luck but half or more are just out of prison, on parole, or live in halfway houses.  The "closers" are a mixture of fast talking hot shots,...

Within the work place there are countless amounts of debauchery and even adultery.  As the story goes the main owner Greg sleeps with multiple women the accounting department.  They say that all the good looking woman work in his special department where he can take care of them as long as they take care of him. He is also married which makes it all theworse.  The other owner Bob is also married and he a closer that is his mysterious and he still flirts with many other "callers", it is disturbing.  Both of these men are in their 60's.  I'm told the minority owner had a serious drug problem and has an addiction to pills and he buys thousands of dollars worth of illegal drugs from a couple of the callers that just got out of prison.  

I'm told this lawyer Lance Denha has only been seen a few times over the last year and that is wrapped around Greg's finger and is afraid him.  Everyone says they will be changing the name again soon to a new lawyer so the scam keeps going and going.  In my little time I never heard a single story about them helping someone.  But, as a caller I had at least 100 people tell me that they knew who we were because we already stole their money.  

To make matters worse they also rob their employees.  I guess they feel they can do this because just about everyone there is on parole but every single employee told me that they get robbed every week and they take it for some reason.  

They guaranteed me $250 a week when I started which nobody could live on, buy they claim a good "caller" makes $700/wk or more.  Well, my 2nd week there I worked over 40 hours and 4 of the "passes" that I made turned into clients and these scam artist paid me a check of $90.00.

$90.00 for over 40 hours and they get away with it by making you sign some waiver that nobody reads when you start.  But, I've spoken to a lawyer since they make people clock in their scam will not hold up in court.

So, for all of you that are concerned.  They are not a real law firm. They are a long running scam and they are sweat shop that prays on struggling people that need work.  

Run away from this scam.  I worked there and I ran away.  Please do the same.

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Anonymous
#483414

Pinnacle law group in coral Springs is now The law offices of Lance Denha, also in Coral Springs; address 1400 North University Drive

Hk29
#461373

Same thing happened with us!I contacted BBB and Pinnacale denied and blamed everything on us.

They didn't send us any proof that they did any thing with our case. A year after we signed then they call us and give us a phone number to call our mortgage provider. We thought that this is what we paid them to do. They even went as far to block our phone numbers when we call them.

Are you guys able to get through at all? I am just curious, how are you going about to get your money back? BBB has closed our case cuz it has been 30 days passed since we filed our report and we still sit with no refund. I am almost at a loss on what to do.

Just seeing what other people are doing to get their money back.

Pinnacale won't return any phone calls nor emails.

Thanks for any advice and I can keep you posted if I find something out if you like.

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Pinnacle Law Firm - Ripped off by pinnacle

Niceville, Florida 3 comments
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They call you as youngs & associates but they are pinnacle law firm.They knew we were deperate to save our home.

They said we didnt have to pay our mortgage durng the process AND NOW we owe the bank over 16,000 dollars. Pinnacle took 2800 from us and then another 399.90. When i tried to call the number it said it was 900 executive suites not pinnacle. Pinnacle law firm are crooks and should be stopped does anyone know what we can do.

Someone please tell me if there is a class action suit in florida.I know there are others that have been scammed.

Review about: Mortgage Remodification.

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Anonymous
#578422

Hello,

I am writing as a pro bono attorney working with the Prevent Loan Scams Project of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, a not-for-profit organization based in Washington, DC. My colleagues and I, from the law firm Carlton Fields, are working with Lawyers' Committee to investigate entities and individuals that are possibly involved in loan modification scam operations. We are trying to help people who have been scammed, and are working free of charge, on a pro bono basis.

We have seen several complaints on the internet concerning Pinnacle Law Firm. If you have a complaint about this company, we would be interested in speaking with you to learn more about your experience and investigate the company further.

There is no charge for anything we do for or with you. We are simply trying to help. You can learn more about the Prevent Loan Scams project at www.preventloanscams.org.

Please feel free to contact us at PinnacleComplaints@carltonfields.com. We look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you,

Jacqueline

Hk29
#461375

Same thing happened with us! I contacted BBB and Pinnacale denied and blamed everything on us. They didn't send us any proof that they did any thing with our case. A year after we signed then they call us and give us a phone number to call our mortgage provider. We thought that this is what we paid them to do. They even went as far to block our phone numbers when we call them. Are you guys able to get through at all? I am just curious, how are you going about to get your money back? BBB has closed our case cuz it has been 30 days passed since we filed our report and we still sit with no refund. I am almost at a loss on what to do. Just seeing what other people are doing to get their money back. Pinnacale won't return any phone calls nor emails.

Thanks for any advice and I can keep you posted if I find something out if you like.

Anonymous
#416334

It's hard to take you seriously when you have the grammar of a first grader. You should go back to first grade and learn something.

We were ripped off from Pinnacle Law Firm

White Plains, New York 38 comments
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We contacted Pinnacle Law Firm to give us a loan modification as my husband just got on disability.They reassured us that we woul have this loan modification and that all we needed to do was to pay them $500 for the next 3 months.

So we did this went on for 7 months and we gave them a total of $3500 and come to find out we did not qualify for the loan. It hurt us as now those 7 months are added to the end of the mortgage and now have to pay higher as we don't have enough in our escrow to pay our taxes. They are liars, rip off artists and shame on them!!!!!!!!

DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY YOU'LL BE SORRY!!

Review about: Loan Modification.

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Anonymous
Los Angeles, California, United States #762556

For anyone who has been scammed by one of these law firms, file a complaint at your state Bar Association.They will review it and forward it to the US Department of Justice as they are prosecuting these law firms who promise to sue the banks on behalf of homeowners for what are basically just loan modifications.

It is illegal to side step the laws on modifications (no upfront fees and payment only if results are accomplished).

To disguise these services behind 'litigation' is illegal and the Bar even has a fund available for homeowners who have been victimized to recoup their lost money.

Anonymous
#740628

JUAN RUIZ YOU WILL GET YOURS...WATCH YOUR BACK..STEALING PEOPLES MONEY...YOU THINK BECAUSE YOUR ATTORNEY YOUR ABOVE THE LAW..NOT-YOU WILL END UP IN JAIL LIKE SCOTT ROTHESTEIN..YOU F-KIN LOSER..I KNOW U... dirt bag theif

Anonymous
#740627

JUAN RUIZ IS A *** BAG FROM CORAL SPRINGS FL..........WHAT A LOW LIFE LOSER...............

CarltonFields
#578435

Pro Bono Representation

Hello, I am writing as a pro bono attorney working with the Prevent Loan Scams Project of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, a not-for-profit organization based in Washington, DC.My colleagues and I, from the law firm Carlton Fields, are working with Lawyers' Committee to investigate entities and individuals that are possibly involved in loan modification scam operations.

We are trying to help people who have been scammed, and are working free of charge, on a pro bono basis. We have seen several complaints on the internet concerning Pinnacle Law Firm. If you have a complaint about this company, we would be interested in speaking with you to learn more about your experience and investigate the company further. There is no charge for anything we do for or with you.

We are simply trying to help. You can learn more about the Prevent Loan Scams project at www.preventloanscams.org. Please feel free to contact us at PinnacleComplaints@carltonfields.com.

We look forward to hearing from you.Thank you, Jacqueline

bigbob6113
to CarltonFields Oxford, Massachusetts, United States #653507

we tried for 14 months for a modification same bull *** I feel like a fool :(

Anonymous
#535483

:? Please add our names to the lawsuit, if there is one in the future. We too were promised the sun, and got nothing. They were happy to take and keep our money, with nothing in return.

Hk29
#461383

I am in the same boat as all of you.I filed a report with BBB and Pinnacale denied and blamed everthing on us and now it has been 30 days past filing the report so BBB has closed our case and we sit with no refund.

Any info you can throw my way will be a great help and anything I find out I will post.

I will call the AG office in Florida as our people talked about I think the BBB gave me the phone # for them.Thanks for any info you can throw my way.

Anonymous
to Hk29 #1013668

That's because you guys rely on the BBB who is the biggest scam. These companies pay 10k per month to have a rating. I could sell dog's *** on the streets and pay the BBB to give me an A+ The BBB won't ever do anything for consumers!!

Anonymous
#435648

This is for Zamo24 :cry :(

I paid Pinnacle Law firm their full asking price and yet they didn't deliver their serivces.Now you want to discontinue in paying them not sure if that will help you in any way.

I am still trying to recoup my money however I get a lawyer who is extremely nasty and yells at me and says "What you don't work for free and neither do we". "We did our end and just because you don't like the outcome that's life," I don't know where he comes across saying stuff like that for I didn't find $3,500 in the street and had to work my *** off for it and the least they could do was to even send me half but no they are greedy, shady, dirty, and shame on them. I regret to this day that I ever dealt with them.

I hope their practice gets shut down.I could care less about their so-called attorneys and hope they lose their jobs.

Anonymous
#435645

LAST POST WAS FROM ME.

Anonymous
#435643

JUST RECIEVED LETTER FROM OFFICE OF FINANCIAL REGULATION IN FLORIDA.THEY DID AN INVESTIGATION .

FOUND THE PRESIDENT OF PINNACLE TO BE JUAN RUIZ.

COMPLAINT WAS FORWARDED WITH MANY OTHERS TO FLORIDA BAR ASSOC. RUIZ RECIEVED A 90 DAY SUSPENSION OF PRACTICING LAW IN FLA. ACORDING TO THEM.

THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THE FLORIDA BAR DATE INVESTIGATION DATES BACK TO FEB. 2011.

KEEP CALLING THE BAR ASSOC.ON JUAN RUIZ IF HE IS STILL USING HIS TACTICS.

zamo24
#424885

One more thing, I haven't finished paying them.Am I to late because of the paper work I've signed or should I just take that chance?

I given them almost $2500 so far.

Wondering if anyone stopped giving them all the money and if there was any fallout.Thanks!

Anonymous
#424876

Just getting up to speed. Got dooped by them as well. Wondering if there is any update?

Anonymous
#419533

:( :( :( :(

Dear Patty Boy,

Thanks for the info as I will follow up with your advice of contacting the Attorney General's office in Florida.So if I understand correctly then you are saying that they are no longer practcing?

Interesting?!Well I will do my part that's for sure.

Anonymous
#418417

in 2010 all in florida dealing with modifications were to have a licinse

pinnacle does not come up with the office of financial regulation in florida, young and associates who also passes as pinnacle does come up and there lic. is expired as of 1/5/2011. will be contacting the office of finacial regulation monday morning!!!

Anonymous
#418412

TO ALL CONCERNED ABOUT PINNACLE

CONTACT THE AG'S OFFICE IN FLORIDA AND ALSO THE OFFICE OF FINANCIAL REGULATION IN REGARDS TO PINNACLE LAW FIRM / YOUNG AND ASSOCIATES.

Anonymous
#407334

SOME INFO

I AM NOT IN FLORIDA.ANY ACTION I WANT TO TAKE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN FLORIDA

WAS TOLD TO CALL FLORIDA BAR ASSOCIATION.

UNFORTUNATELY THEY DO NOT WORK BY FIRMS BUT BY INDIVIDUAL LAWYER. OF COURSE IF YOU GO TO THERE WEBSITE NO ONE LAWYER NAME IS MENTIONED. I AM WAITING FOR A RETURN CALL FROM THEM AS I LEFT MY INFO. ALSO I WILL BE CONTACTING THE A.G'S OFFICE IN FLORIDA IN REGARDS.

I ADVISE ALL TO DO THE SAME . WAS ALSO ADVISED NOT TO CHASE BAD MONEY WITH GOOD MONEY.

ANY CLASS ACTION THE LAWYER GETS MONEY IN THE SETTLEMENT.THEN WE WOULD GET A PORTION.

Anonymous
#403284

This is for Pattyboy, when you see the attorney could you ask if we could file a class action-suit?You see I too lost $3,500 and right now that would come handy.

I will also now file with the BBB, thanks!They shouldn't be allowed to play with people's lives and take their hard earned money.

Anonymous
#402850

@ HEBERT AND ZUNNI,

I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT NEXT WED. WITH ATTORNEY .ALTHOUGH I COULD USE THE MONEY I WILL OFFER THE ATTORNEY HALF AND MAKE A DONATION WITH THE REST. I JUST DO NOT WANT THEM TOP HAVE IT!THEY TOOK 2800 FROM ME!I FILED A COMPLAINT WITH BBB

Anonymous
#402589

This is for Pattyboy, please keep me posted.I am not sure if we can all do this together however, right now my finances are at a low thanks to them.

If there is anyway we can file a class action lawsuit please let me know.Like I said before I want them OUT of business once and for all, shame on them!

Anonymous
#402549

wow there has to be a way to alert more people or to see how the BBB shows them to have an A rating when they are thieves and making people lose there homes as in my case plus 2500.00

Anonymous
#402368

@veneer I am contacting a law firm tomorrow. In regards

Anonymous
#394365

This is for Pattyboy. I agree although the holidays will be tough, not fair.

As they say there is strength in numbers and let's do it, let's bring them down.

I also wish you a very Merry Christmas and Happy and Healthy New Year!

New beginings 2012!

Anonymous
#394337

LETS GET THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS AND THEN I WILL PUSH FORWARD KEEPING YOU POSTED!

MERRY CHRISTMAS

Anonymous
#391659

Pattyboy, I am not sure how we go about doing this but this is something worth looking into. Do we need to file in Florida or the state in which the agreement was made? I am willing to do my part that's for sure even if I don't get my money returned to me just knowing they close them down and out of business will make me very happy.

Anonymous
#391601

IM IN HEBERT, THERE ARE 10 PEOPLE HERE ALONE,HOW DO WE START. DOES IT HAVE TO BE FILED IN FLORIDA?

Anonymous
#391554

This is for the comment made by Pattyboy.

Perhaps all of us that got burned from this company and file a class action lawsuit.I will be first to sign it.

There is strength in numbers.They should really close the company down and stop them from doing this to other hard working people.

Anonymous
#391182

SAME STORY..I DIDNT EXPECT MIRACLES ..

BUT AT LEAST AN ANSWER.. PAID 389.95 FOR 7 MONTHS .. NOTHING,,,,,THEY JUST STOPPED CONTACTING ME WILL NOT RETURN EMAILS OR PHONE CALLS , NIEL OXENBURG WAS MY REP. I THINK I AM GOING TO FILE A LAWSUIT .

THEY ALSO ADVISED ME NOT TO PAY MORTGAGE AS IT MAY PROLONG THIGS BECAUSE THE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE???NOT VERY HAPPY .

Anonymous
#387018

Just received what appears to be a dream come true from NHT Law Group.I did some digging and found this site.

If it sounds to good to be true...... it isn't.

Thanks for your post and for saving me the headaches and expense!:?

Anonymous
#379474

I was contacted by NHT Law Group (NHT) that they can file a tort litigation in California against my mortgage lender for fraudulent practices.If I win the case - my interest rate will be reduced to 2-3% and my balance will drop to the market value ($120K difference).

The fee is $5000. I searched NHT in the internet and they seemed legitimate. Yesterday - I received the contract to be signed. The contract is between me and RELC (Real Estate LAw Center,P.C)..and that Pinnacle LAw Center, NHT and RELC will split my fee.

A Red flag!Thank you for the web information..

that Pinnacle and RELC have been scamming people.I am lucky that I did not sign the echeck authorization of $5000 and the monthly fee of $29.95 which was to be paid as long as the case is on file.

Anonymous
#357181

Wow, I wish I would have saw this site before I went with Pinnacle.I was almost 3 months behind on my mortgage because of unemployment and they promised me the same thing, that they would be able to make my delinquency go away and that they would land me a better payment in the end.

I ended up giving them $1200 just for them to tell me I didn't qualify either. Lucky I didn't listen to them all the way, they had actually told me not to worry about making my mortgage payment while I was on the program. Had I listened to them, I would have definitely been foreclosed on. It makes me want to find them and punch them in the mouth for ripping hard working people off.

Lawyers suck, but especially crooked ones like Pinnacle. What else sucks is that our system just lets them get away with it.

They are scamming numerous homeowners as we speak...it's pretty much a crime what they are doing, but they continue to get away with it.:( :( :(

Anonymous
#338899

Pinnacle Law Firm contacted us to give us a loan modification.They reassured us that we would have this loan modification and that all we needed to do was to pay them $400 for the next 7 months.

So we did this went on for 7 months and we gave them a total of $2800 and come to find out that they were rude to the mortgage company, hung up on them and never passed on to me any paperwork that the bank needed, end of July Pinnacle called and left me a voicemail that the mod was denied & to contact them. I called the number and it is a voicemail system with no subscribers!!!we did not qualify for the loan.

They are liars, rip off artists and shame on them!!!!!!!!DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY YOU'LL BE SORRY!!

Anonymous
#294152

It makes me sick that this "Law Firm" is praying on people in these situations where people are losing their HOMES!My mother is on SSI, PINNACLE told my mom they could lower her monthly payments to 800.00$ from 1,300.00$, it would only cost her 400.00$ monthly, AND THEY WILL SAVE HER HOME.

Well they have done NOTHING but have my mom fax the same papers over and over,(THIS TOO SHE HAS TO PAY FOR) They do not contact her until the day before payment is due. They are taking her and my little sister and her 4 children for EVEYTHING! they Are losing they're home right NOW, the house is going up for auction next month, PINNACLE has still done nothing and keep taking her money.

There has got to be someway to stop them!We ALL need to fight these BASTARDS and get our monies back!!

hebert
#288478

This is in response to Jeff Whitney.You said your mortgage rate was reduced are they still working on it or this is a done deal.

You see they promised us the same thing and then afer 7 months they told us we didn't qualify and won't return our $3500 or give us the rate. They are liars. I am currently working with another company who will return our money if we don't qualify and our rate will be 2.5 fixed for the next 30 yrs.

I don't trust them and feel sorry for those who give their hard earned money to them.They are liars, liars and shame on them!!!

Anonymous
#288420

im from california,and i dealt with this firm i was 6 months behind on payments,they got me 100% current,the interest rate from 9% down to 5.39%,and payments from 1538.89 to 989.37 so they are a good law firm. by the way my name is jeff whitney.call them toll free if your interested 1877 700 1110.also young associates mortgage

Anonymous
#288352

I would contact your local district attorney's office.

Anonymous
#288348

Would like to hear from you I am looking for a loan mod. And have been contacted by this firm

Anonymous
#282756

Yes, they contacted us also. Thankful to people like you we now know this is a scam , thank you.

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